Interview with Eva Nevarez St. John, author of When Tough Cookies Crumble

My guest today is Eva Nevarez St. John whose memoir, When Tough Cookies Crumble: A True Story of Friendship, Murder and Healing was published on 30th July 2024. Read on as I chat with Eva about her book and the story behind it.


About the Book

When Tough Cookies Crumble

Two tough cookies. Breaking barriers in careers and love. Until one is murdered…

Janice Starr and Eva Booker became best friends when they met as soldiers in the Women’s Army Corp in Korea in 1978. In a time of rapid social change, they tested the limits of women’s liberation and the sexual revolution.

After they moved to Washington D.C. together, Janice and Eva supported each other as they faced the challenges of continuing their military careers in the Army Reserves, navigating jobs, going to school, and dating. Their friendship went through ups and downs, but their bond was never broken.

In the summer of 1981, Janice moved to southern Virginia on her own. Three months later she disappeared without a trace. Eva knew who was responsible for Janice’s disappearance, but the only one who believed her was Detective Kay Lewis. Another tough cookie, Detective Lewis overcame the obstacles put in her way by her colleagues and superiors to pursue Janice’s killer and find Janice.

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Interview with Eva Nevarez St. John, author of When Tough Cookies Crumble

When Tough Cookies Crumble is based on your own personal experiences. What inspired you to turn them into a book?

The book is about the murder of one of my best friends in 1981. The lead detective in the case contacted me in 2019 about writing a book. Initially, we worked on it together, but later she decided to have a man write it. I didn’t want the book to just be about Janice’s murder and I didn’t trust a man to write her story. That’s why I had to write my own book about our friendship, our experiences as female soldiers, what led to her murder, and the process of healing from the trauma through the writing of the book.

Tell us a bit about your friend Janice. How did you first meet? What drew you to each other? What did you admire about her?

Janice and I were roommates in Seoul, Korea, where we were among a small minority of female soldiers in the military. We bonded over our common experiences and interests. Janice was 19 and I was 21 when we met. She looked up to me like a big sister. We felt comfortable sharing everything with each other, which we continued to do in letters after my tour ended in Korea, until we reunited a year later. We moved to the Washington D.C. area together, where we supported each other in facing the challenges of school, work, continuing our military careers, and dating.

What challenges did you face when writing about something so personal?

This was an extremely hard book to write. It was challenging to relive the experiences I wrote about from this time in my life. Also, I learned disturbing details while researching the book that I didn’t know at the time. Writing about the roles that others played in the story was difficult, as well. I had a lot of fear about exposing the personal details in the book. The personal and professional support and feedback I received helped me get through it. In the end, I believe everything I wrote about in the book was necessary to tell the story.

You describe the period in which the book is set as ‘a time of rapid social change’ in America. How did this manifest itself for you personally?

Janice and I joined the Army in 1976. The Vietnam War had just ended. Women were beginning to explore careers in non-traditional fields, such as the military. The sexual revolution was redefining the roles women could play beyond marriage and motherhood. Civil rights and race relations were challenging the status quo. Janice and I had to deal with sexism and racism, both of which impacted the investigation into her disappearance.

The book is subtitled ‘A True Story of Friendship, Murder, and Healing’. Can you say more about the healing aspect?

I don’t think I truly began the healing process until I started writing the book. I had buried Janice and that time in my life deep in my subconscious. I numbed my feelings with drugs, alcohol and sex for most of my life. I tried to get clean several times, but I couldn’t be successful in the long-term because I wasn’t dealing with the underlying trauma. When the detective contacted me about writing the book, I had a reason to face my demons.

First, I went to counseling through the VA (Veterans Administration), so I could begin processing the traumatic experiences that I had to write about. Then I went to Narcotics Anonymous meetings with a willingness to commit to the program 100%. The next step was to learn about the craft of writing, in general, and memoir, in particular. I found inspiration and courage by reading many memoirs. I pursued spiritual practices, such as meditation and following spiritual teachers. I started taking better care of myself by exercising and eating better. Healing is an ongoing process for me.

What message would you like readers to take away from the book?

The biggest takeaway I would like readers to get from the book is to be careful about trusting someone too quickly. Take your time to get to know them. Look out for red flags, like they want to get serious too fast, they isolate you from your friends and family, and they make you question your own instincts. Talk to people you trust about the relationship and take their feedback seriously. Follow your gut and your intuition. There are bad people out there looking for someone to take advantage of. They can be very convincing and manipulative.

Another message is don’t be afraid to face trauma from your past. It is probably having a negative impact on your life in ways you don’t even realize. Find support to help you work through it. Writing about it can be very therapeutic, even if you don’t plan to share it with anyone.

Is this the end of your writing journey – or just the beginning?

I hope it is the beginning. I have always wanted to be a writer. I did have a couple of articles published in genealogy journals. I want to write more of those. I’m also considering writing another book about my family history.

Thank you, Eva, for sharing your writing journey with us.


About the Author

Author Eva Nevarez St. John

Eva Nevarez St. John was an Army brat, soldier, lawyer, and nonprofit manager. She continues to be a nonprofit consultant, social activist, writer, and genealogist. Eva currently lives in southern New Mexico.

Eva fell in love with books at a young age. She particularly loves to read about the wide range of life experiences and perspectives in memoir. The process of writing When Tough Cookies Crumble: A True Story of Friendship, Murder, and Healing helped her heal from the traumas she wrote about and to grow as a person. Visit Eva’s website for recommendations of other memoirs and resources for writing memoir.

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Book Review – The CIA Book Club by Charlie English @WmCollinsBooks @4thEstateBooks #ReadNonFicChal

About the Book

Front cover of The CIA Book Club by Charlie English

For almost five decades after the Second World War, Europe was divided by the longest and most heavily guarded border on earth. The Iron Curtain, a near-impenetrable barrier of wire and wall, tank traps, minefields, watchtowers and men with dogs, stretched for 4,300 miles from the Arctic to the Black Sea. No physical combat would take place along this frontier: the risk of nuclear annihilation was too high for that. Instead, the conflict would be fought in the psychological sphere. It was a battle for hearts, minds and intellects.

No one understood this more clearly than George Minden, the head of a covert intelligence operation known as the ‘CIA books programme’, which aimed to win the Cold War with literature.

From its Manhattan headquarters, Minden’s global CIA ‘book club’ would infiltrate millions of banned titles into the Eastern Bloc, written by a vast and eclectic list of authors, including Hannah Arendt and Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, George Orwell and Agatha Christie. Volumes were smuggled on trucks and aboard yachts, dropped from balloons, and hidden in the luggage of hundreds of thousands of individual travellers. Once inside Soviet bloc, each book would circulate secretly among dozens of like-minded readers, quietly turning them into dissidents. Latterly, underground print shops began to reproduce the books, too. By the late 1980s, illicit literature in Poland was so pervasive that the system of communist censorship broke down, and the Iron Curtain soon followed.

Format: Hardcover (384 pages) Publisher: William Collins
Publication date: 13th March 2025 Genre: Nonfiction, History

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My Review

The fact the CIA was involved in smuggling books beyond the Iron Curtain to Poland and other Warsaw Pact countries in Eastern Europe was a revelation to me. And that they supported the underground printing operations of activists working to counter the disinformation of the Polish government and get around its strict censorship laws. That’s hardly surprising because the operation has been described as the ‘best kept secret’ of the Cold War. In fact many of the participants never knew the source of the funding that enabled the programme to carry on.

Although I’m of an age to recall the rise of the Solidarity movement in Poland, I hadn’t realised the extent of the regime’s attempts to suppress the dissemination of non-state approved information. Not only were many books banned, every typewriter had to be registered, access to every photocopier was restricted and a permit was needed to buy paper in any quantity. If Poles wanted to create a business card, a rubber stamp or even a sheet of music it had to be approved by a censor. Some of the censorship decisions were positively bizarre. The author cites the example of a book about growing carrots that was destroyed for implying vegetables could grow in individuals’ gardens as well as in those run by collectives.

Disseminating information about what was really going on could end you up in jail, probably after a severe beating up by the secret police. One of the people highlighted in the book is Miroslaw Chojecki, an underground Polish publisher who endured just such treatment, as well as force-feeding when he embarked on a hunger strike in prison. Forced into exile in the West, he continued to be involved in directing increasingly daring smuggling operations.

The other key character is George Minden, the CIA’s mastermind behind the programme who continued to believe, in the face of opposition from his own superiors at times, in the power of the printed word as a means of resistance and liberation. As the author describes it, a sort of literary humanitarian aid, the bookish equivalent of food parcels.

The details of some of the smuggling operations are astounding with printing presses, books and other material cunningly concealed in vehicles to evade border checks or carried by individuals travelling between Poland and other countries. However, some more outlandish ideas such as smuggling miniature books in Tampax boxes were rejected. Even once inside the country, distribution was a highly dangerous affair requiring much ingenuity by those involved. Information was on a strictly ‘need to know’ basis with many in the network never learning the identity of others involved further up or down the chain. Precautions had to be taken against telephone lines being tapped or locations bugged. Members of the underground publishing network were forced to adopt elaborate precautions to avoid detection (referred to as ‘health and safety’ procedures) many of which could have come straight out of a John le Carre novel, or the film French Connection.

When it came to underground printing operations, the author explains even more ingenuity was required. ‘Rex-Rotary and A. B. Dick presses sat behind fake walls, false chimneys and heavy wardrobes, in loft spaces above rural barns and in kitchen cellars beneath trapdoors hidden by a fridge. The output of these machines was carried around in rucksacks, and suitcases, or tied to men’s backs beneath their coats, and dead-dropped in tree holes, under drain covers or beneath church pews.’

The book has an incredible amount of detail and it’s clear the author has been meticulous in his research. As an illustration, I was only at 80% on my Kindle copy when I reached the epilogue, the rest of the book being bibliography, notes, etc. I found the book had so much detail that I had to dip in and out of it over a few weeks. There are a lot of people mentioned, not all of whom play a prominent role in the story. Much of the book is taken up with the evolution of the Solidarity movement, a journey not without its setbacks including a period of brutal suppression by the Soviet-backed Polish government. The book taught me a lot about the history of the period and made me appreciate why Poland, given its history, has good reason to fear Russian aggression even today.

The CIA Book Club demonstrates in a very readable way how the written word can be a weapon in the fight for freedom and how banning books in order to suppress freedom of thought and speech is ultimately always doomed to fail.

I received a review copy courtesy of William Collins via NetGalley. The CIA Book Club fits the History cayegory of the Nonfiction Reader Challenge hosted by Shellyrae at Book’d Out.

In three words: Fascinating, well-researched, detailed
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About the Author

Author Charlie English (Photo: Amazon author page)

Charlie English is a British non-fiction author and former head of international news at the Guardian. He has written three books, including The Snow Tourist (2008) and The Book Smugglers of Timbuktu, aka The Storied City (2017). His third, The Gallery of Miracles and Madness, was published in August 2021. He lives in London with his family.

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